Wednesday, June 4, 2008

home hunting aggravations- starting from scratch.

Well, it turns out after an email and call with real estate agent yvette and loan mortgage handler rick, that we are not going to be able to afford all of the houses we wanted to bid on. put simply- according to the numbers guy, we cannot pick any homes that have over 2400 dollars in taxes and HOA or CDD fees combined.

So, the best homes ranged from 3000-5000 in taxes along, some adding about 150-300 in HOA's. I know this is all very foreign territory to me as well so this may sound like mumbo jumbo when I'm typing and explaining it to you all.

In simple terms, from what I understand HOA's have to do with fees for community taking care of lawn, landscaping as well as community oriented centers like recreation centers with pool, fitness and golf clubs etc.

Most decent homes in any decent area comes with a HOA. and, if you are not going to buy a home with an underground swimming pool - then you should have a community center where you are able to use their pool and facilities as Florida is very much a state where if you live in it, you want access to a pool or would find it necessary to own one.

I don't find it necessity to own one at this point although it would be nice because I simply believe we would take it for granted and never use it. When you have what you want, you sometimes become complacent and lose interest since its so easily available but I would definitely prefer to have a community center with a pool nearby where we could get membership in our neighborhood so that if we wanted to swim, we could.

I love swimming and we live in a complex with a big pool but we don't go that often. It's getting hot here and I plan to make use of it more and more during the summer like we did last year even if it's when we're doing laundry which is next to the pool or at nite when we just want a nice little dip to cool off.

When I go in, I try to swim at least five laps back and forth because swimming makes me feel good and is invigorating, refreshing to my energy. That said, if we even wanted to buy a home with an underground pool that is in good shape, we would be looking at anywhere between 200 and 400 thousand dollar homes and that is just way out of our league. But like I said, I'm okay with not having a pool.

I think it's Jimmy who wishes he could find a home with a pool, even if it's not in the best shape as we've looked at a few homes with pools that were plainly disgusting, green, dark green water with stains all over it and rust. I said, NO WAY. The rest of the home didn't even have much to offer and was not equipped with a lot of the things I liked in other homes. That said those homes were immediately dropped from our "buying consideration" list.

In any case, what it comes down to is this:

Originally Jimmy asked to place bids on these three homes and I will name them by their street name, each have appeared in my diary in a separate entry if you need to be refreshed in regard to what I am talking about, here is a small picture representing each one below as follows:

Stone Arch Ave.




Description

Dont miss this very loved 3 yr young four bedroom two bath house. Corner lot with view of pond, great location in the subdivision.Lennar built with many extras like the gourmet kitchen,tile in all wet areas,wall to wall carpet,garden tub and shower masterbath, walk in closets. Living room and den gives you lots of space to share with all the family. Dining room and split plan for master bedroom and guest rooms gives you all the privacy you need.Covered patio look at the pond in the large back yard. Corner lot gives you more space outside.Dont miss this great home at a great price. Price reduced.

Price Reduced: 05/14/08 -- $190,000 to $149,900
On Market: 83 days
Interior Features: Floor Coverings:CERAMIC TILE
Bathroom:TUB WITH SEPARATE SHOWER STALL
Kitchen: DISHWASHER, DISPOSAL, MICROWAVE, RANGE
Exterior Features: Parking: 2 CAR GARAGE
Siding: BLOCK Lot Description: CORNER LOT

Canterbury Lakes (our absolute favorite at this point)



Description/Info:
Subdivision name: Canterbury Lakes Phase 3
Size: Sq Ft: 1258; One Story Single Family Home// 3 Bedrooms/ 2 Bathrooms
List price: $155,000 ; HOA Fee: $300.00
Home Built in: 2005
Total Acreage: Zero Lot Line Water: View/Pond
Lot Size: 4,399
Kitchen, dining room, 3rd bedroom all 12x11 feet; living room is 19x12 ft. ; master bedroom 15x12 ft; 2nd bedroom 12x10 feet. porch: 12x12 ft.
Floor covering: ceramic tile A/C and Heat: central
Extras: volume ceilings, cathedral/vaulted ceiling, walk in closet , two car garage, patio/porch open 3 bed/2 bath 1258 square feet; $155,000

Canal Pointe



Basic house information and important facts:

Subdivision: Heritage Isles
Size: 3 bedroom/ 2 bathroom; one story, single family home
Square feet: 1385 sq.ft Total Acreage: 10889 sq. ft.
Water: frontage/pond
Built in: 2002
Selling price: $139,000
Taxes: 4,176
Annual CDD Fee: 2,420
HOA fee [quarterly] $75.00

Other ones out of our price ranged that we loved and most people complimented on my diary is:

Steel Dust




All of these homes were past $2400 in taxes and unaffordable for the kind of mortgage Jimmy qualifies for so they had to be dropped entirely and we cannot even consider any of those.

It is disappointing but both of us are also a bit frustrated as to why our real estate agent had not been more on the ball who is in constant communication with our loan guy Rick and knew the qualifications/limitations of what we could afford YET wasted her time but MOST of all, OUR time by showing us homes that we could not afford even if we wanted them.

Out of those homes she took us to in the past month--- a total of probably 20-25 homes where which we ended up ONLY liking between 6 to 8 homes and could see potential and would consider buying-- it looks like ONLY 2 or 3 out of those are in the range that we MIGHT be able to afford and its not even for certain if we are in the affordable range of all three potential homes right now. It is highly aggravating that she wasted so much of our time. I like her but she does seem very unorganized, a bit flighty, and not on her game.

A good real estate agent would know how to delegate time better and would steer away from wasting her or the client's time by being more informed, prepared, and organized. Like, for instance, I always thought she should have sat us down in her office and went over with us what homes were in the range of what we could realistically afford so that we would only see homes that we could realistically buy. It makes no logical sense to me why we did not map out a plan in her office if she is a so called real estate agent.

I know Jimmy only went with her because she is the sister of his best friend's wife [who barely talks to him] and there is some obligation there but I can think of other friends he has with far better personalities and skill that could help us far more than she is doing.

I feel like we are only backtracking with her and have to start all over again and wasted the last few months looking at prospective homes that we will never be able to realistically afford or buy , so what was the point of all that time wasted. It aggravates me. There is nothing more I hate than wasting time and having to do double the work because of someone's obvious incompetence.

That aside, these are now supposedly the homes of which we've seen and liked [some we didn't love but thought if the ones we loved fell thru, we could settle for them. Btw, most of the ones left to afford are ones we'd only settle for, not absolutely love.] That said these are the ones that would be in our affordable range based on the hours of research Jimmy had to do on his own last nite.

[isn't that the real estate and mortgage agent's job? i don't get it. why should they get commission for helping us if they are not even doing their job properly. stupid!!]

* 24940 Joiner Ct.; Lutz, FL taxes: $1,102.00; hoa: $206.50 semi-annually

tion:
Beds: 3 Type: SFR Sq. Ft.: 1,216 Lot Size: 8,712 Sq. Ft. Baths: 2/0 Year Built: 1991 MLS #: T2309939 List Date: 04/25/08

Description

Price Increased: 05/09/08 -- $150,000 to $156,000; On Market: 23 days Not a short sale++new roof may '08(old pictures)+see virtual tour for floorplan tour++brand new real solid oak floors in kitchen, dining area and foyer++brand new ge smooth top range++brand new kenmore microwave++huge tiled and screen lanai++fireplace forcrackling fires in winter++ vaulted ceilings++built in window seat in master bedroom++walk in closet in master bedroom ++partially converted garage to air conditioned 12 x 12 bonus room, which could be used as a workshop,play room, nursery or craft room++pie shaped lot for extra space in side yards++inside utility for the laundry++freshly painted kitchen, neutral colors++neutral colored berber carpet in family room and bedrooms++pass thru window from kitchen to lanai is great for entertaining and griling++fantastic cul de sac location for room to play out front++no backyard neighbors ++no cdd fees!++low hoa fees++easy access to i-75++low pasco county tax rate++enjoy a community clubhouse, pool, playground and tennis courts.

Interior Features:
Laundry: WASHER/DRYER HOOKUPS; Fireplace: IN FAMILY ROOM, WOOD BURNING; Floor Coverings: VINYL, WOOD;
Bathroom: TUB WITH SHOWER;
Kitchen: DISHWASHER, DISPOSAL, RANGE, MICROWAVE, EATING SPACE, CLOSET PANTRY; Kitchen Dim.: 17 X 10; Dining Room: EAT IN KITCHEN
Living Room Dim.: 23 X 14Bedroom: SPLIT BEDROOM + Misc. Rooms: BONUS ROOM, UTILITY ROOM
Exterior Features:
Style: CONTEMPORARY
Parking: ATTACHED, DOOR OPENER, 2 CAR GARAGE
Siding: BLOCK, BRICK, STUCCO
Pool Type: COMMUNITY POOL
Lot Description: CUL-DE-SAC, SIDEWALK
Roof Type: SHINGLE
Yard/Grounds: OAK TREES, PATIO/PORCH COVERED, PATIO/PORCH OPEN, IRRIGATION SYSTEM
Foundation: SLAB
Lot Size: 8,712 Sq. Ft.
Utilities Heating: ELECTRIC; Cooling: CENTRAL; Water: COUNTY WATER
County: Pasco
Community Rec.: POOL, RECREATION BUILDING, PLAYGROUND, TENNIS COURTS

* 1632 Pintail Ct; Lutz, FL taxes: $1,940.00; hoa: $75.00 annually

* 6009 Sand Key Ln., Wesley Chapel, FL taxes: $1,299.00; hoa: $180.00 quarterly




General information on home:
Subdivision: Wesley Pointe Phases 2 & 3
Built: 2003
Type of Home: 3 bedroom/ 2 bathroomOne story, Single Family Home
Water: View/Pond
Square Feet: 1158 ; Total Acreage: Up to 10889 Sq. Ft.
Selling Price: $149,900 ; Taxes: $1,299; HOA fees $180.00 [yearly]
Extras: gated community, cathedral vaulted ceiling, walk in closet, garden bath, tub w/shower, pantry, patio/porch with sliding doors; two car garage with door opener.

* 6131 Sand Key Ln., Wesley Chapel, FL taxes: $1,707.00; hoa: $184.00

* 30424 Double Dr., Wesley Chapel, FL taxes: $967.00; hoa: $295.00 annual

And below is a list of places we will be seeing that we've chosen based on what we can afford and what looks good enough to want to visit in person.


We have an appt this saturday afternoon and I will be sure to share more after that meeting and pix if we love any of what we see :)

[note:
altho i realize this is mumbo jumbo to most, I'm including it in my entry to document what is going on in my life for myself and to keep my head organized as well with so much in my head LOL]


homes in Wesley Chapel


[outskirts of tampa, florida]


1. 30615 Double Dr. - list price: $139,900; taxes $1089.39

2. 6112 White Sails Dr. - list price: $149,900; taxes $2089.75

3. 32141 Northridge Dr. - list price: $149, 900; taxes $1806.18

4. 30446 Birdhouse Dr.- list price: $139, 900; taxes $1174.88

5. 6502 Tabogi Tr. - list price: $134, 000; taxes $1947.80

6. 30918 Stone Arch Ave- list price: $150,000; taxes $1942 plus hoa: 342

7. 30327 Pongo Way- list price: $129,900; taxes $1242.00

8. 6031 Sand key Lane- list price: $124,000; taxes $2166.00


Valrico, FL


9. 752 Cape Cod Dr. - list price $159,000


New Tampa/Tampa


10. 18113 Lembrecht Way- list price $140,000; taxes: $1806.10

11. 4125 Tartan Pl.- list price: $129,900; taxes: $1925.59



that's all for now!

Tuesday, June 3, 2008

house hunting is highly stressful, pt 1

the canal pointe tampa house actually looked really nice in person as opposed to the photos. and it was cute. the masterbedroom made me think of male though and i was laughing about it as it had a half nude/topless? [subtle not dirty in any way] blonde woman painting above the dresser but with KISS memorabilia around it like a rocker dude and an acoustic guitar not far away from his dresser.

it is interesting to see what people have and their personality in these homes. they werent home but it had to be someone like our age or even younger who lived there and cos a lot of the extra rooms had boxes packed and taking up half the room, it was hard to tell.

the backyard and patio were also really cute. it looked like there was a cat due to kitty climber thing and cat food but didnt see it. also, there was a dog in a cage in the office room. felt really bad for it. i am very opposed to getting any house though that has an owner who doesn't make sure their home is DOG SMELL free. i don't really like dogs all that much mostly due to their messiness and smell [and i hate hyper animals that drool and jump all over you but jimmy's parents are dog lovers and cat haters and a lot of jimmy's friends are dog lovers too. i kind of have to restrain my thoughts. but not a huge fan of dogs. i agree with that scene in meet the parents where robert dinero is with ben stiller telling ben why cats do NOT sell out like dogs do and how they dont make u work for their affection. lol]

anyway i hate that smell dogs leave in a home if they live-in and so a few homes that were wreaking of dog smell, we were like "forget it! that is a turn off" LOL and it is a definite NO if i see a bunch of dogs or big dogs running around salivating which a few we did see just as i've depicted it. and these particular dog homes smelled horrible. i had to hold my breath.

as far as the fees, for this one home, jimmy says its way too high and he could never afford the payment + he is kind of in the dark about what is a normal fee or what is too high of a fee. i still think he will say its out of his league in being able to afford. i prefer a home that has fees cos it means it's taken care of while he has tried to stay away from homes with high fees or even wanted to go for ones with NO fees which i've tried to talk him out of. he may be realizing this now after seeing some real dumps w/o any HOA fee...i told him i think that would be a mistake. you want a nice family community where things are taken care of, there is a rec. center or pool or family oriented things included in the home esp if one day we start our own family and will be there a while.

i feel like an HOA fee makes the home or area more likely to be a nice area...i don't want a crime ridden downhill bad neighborhood. he thinks not having an HOA doesn't mean anything about how nice the community is or if there is a rec. center nearby that is included and all but I believe it means something and you don't get anything nice for nothing, nothing is for free LOL

btw jimmy says that the loan he qualified for which he sent out today to start the process, is a 150,000 FHA first time home owner loan and its where the sellers pay 3 percent cost of downpayment and 3 percent of closing cost. he was told this was the best loan to go for in terms of saving money on getting a first home. but again im really in the dark on this. i know very little about this process or what that means and really do not know if its a good route to take for a loan on a mortgage.

Jimmy's payments will be like 1200 a month with mortgage and he complains he will barely be able to afford this which i don't really get since he makes good salary and makes at least that i would think every two weeks and also we only pay 750 for this apt which is really cheap so i don't know where his money is going if he can't afford something like 1200 a month which some people pay for just an apt in a city LOL but he has major anxiety over being in debt or buying a home he can't afford. maybe he is just afraid of going bankrupt or losing the home. but i see people younger than us and not all of them have two working couples and MANY of them have lower paying jobs than Jimmy and they are able to handle it fine. we'll see i guess.

it's exciting looking for a new home. i hope we get one that's not a dog cos there are a few he wanted which in my opinion were horribly plain, not appealing, so boring it was ugly, never lived in which made it lack character and too big for someone who does not have kids but it appealed to him cos it was cheap (140 thousand) but it's also bank owned and foreclosed and i feel very weary of that. to me, this sounds too good to be true and i don't like it.

he thinks its a steal, but i feel there is a gimmick or a trick underneath hidden or a reason why it is so cheap that is not good. and whats worse to me, it looks like a glorified apartment, a cheap apt. the carpet and walls remind me of an apt, the kitchen cabinets and all that and it doesn't have the long halls like the ones i liked or vaulted ceiling with places to put knick knacks on, it doesn't have unique architecture like all the ones i have suared here previously, ones that i loved the most..

Jimmy thinks i am overreacting when i say i hate the foreclosed one [its called towerbridge in wesley chapel i think] but it's how i feel and i am the one who is going to be in it a lot alone so i feel i should more than like it, i should LOVE it and feel like it has promise and potential to make it a cozy home.

I don't feel these things with this particular home {Towerbridge} but i feel that with the other ones Ive shown here. he feels I am being petty and complains about me liking the ones that are more money - well, we saw those ones cos he said it was in his price range, the ones i love start at 149-150 thousand and 2 house are 160 thousand but ALL of these homes were chosen by him and he took the time to bring bothof us physically to these houses so that is a bunch of BS. i feel he is making excuses and can be a control freak and it really gets me pissed.


he gets mad and frustrated at me because sometimes i think he hates having to compromise and feels he makes the money therefore he should have more say than me in what house he buys. i understand he makes the money and he is doing a wonderful thing by buying us a home but i also feel we are a couple in this together and i am going to be his wife and people / husband's who buy homes, buy ones that the wife will love without making the wife feel guilty about money or not working etc.

i resent the fact that he is always bringing up the fact that i dont work or have a normal income while throwing it in my face all the time..as soon as he starts saying this BS, i dont allow him to finish his sentence because i already know what he will say and i think it is absolutely ridiculous and immature/ so i cut him off when he starts with that because its irrelevant to me.

part of showing love for your partner and spouse is buying a home the two of you will love particularly the wife, especially if i should ever be raising his kid and spending most of my time there.

i just feel at times his priorities are all out of order. and he can be a bit selfish and it really gets to me. he always reminds me how i don't work or have an income and i feel deep down he believes i don't deserve any say because its his money and not mine. he knows how i feel because i state it over and over but when it comes down to it all, i keep having to remind him what marriage is. its not about who has the money or who pays what.

marriage is about sharing, loving each other in sickness and health and most of the time this means sharing money, not keeping count on who makes money, who makes more money or who has a job or who does not have a job. anyway. end of vent. :) i just get a little frustrated at times. and our last home hunting experience which was over four hrs in a car, as in part, so tense i'm sure it could be felt across the world.

i wish it wasn't so stressful to look at homes and he could be a little more compromising, validating me when i say i hate something or do not want it etc. i hope the real estate agent is accustomed to seeing couples differ in preference for a home or argue cos if she isn't, i'd be embarrassed.

i am sure the real estate woman felt the tension this past wkend and it was unbecoming to both him and i. i don't want to make a bad impression of either myself or him!! sigh :(

she is also the sister of his best friend's wife - so like making a bad impression on her is the LAST thing i want to do cos she would then probably relay it to them and i don't think they know us well enough, we hardly even see them cos his best friend is always too busy for him.

[jenni wrote me this email after i shared the above with her, giving helpful advice for both jimmy and i. which i later shared with him. it was helpful to both him and i and eased a lot of stress. she made me realize somethings but even more she made him realize some ways he was being very unfair to me and he wrote me a letter acknowledging all that and promising to try harder- i will share this in the following entry after this one.]

+++

these are a few choice pix from canal pointe one of our top five considerations but not our most favorite from house hunting the weekend prior to last which i have not had time to post up until NOW sorry for the delay. things have been crazy busy and emotionally draining, all over the place. just havent had the energy. i will catch up eventually.

basic house information and important facts on canal pointe:

subdivision: Heritage Isles

3 bedroom/ 2 bathroom

one story, single family home

square feet: 1385 sq.ft

total acreage: 10889 sq. ft.

water: frontage/pond

built in: 2002

selling price: $139,000 ; taxes: 4,176 ; 2,420 Annual CDD Fee ; HOA fee [quarterly] $75.00

pix:

warning: the home looks way better in person than it did in the actual photos. keep in mind that.



exterior view of home/driveway
canal pointe, tampa



living room


kitchen



dining area/eating room



foyer/front room [they were packing - so some rooms were hard to define in terms of their use and how big they were esp the two smaller bedrooms which were full of boxes.]



office/den or first guest bedroom


guest bathroom in hall


2nd guest bedroom, too full of boxes to get an idea of size and possibilities.


walk-in closet, master bedroom.




master bathroom


master bedroom



door that leads to patio screened porch from master bedroom.


screened in patio/porch with scenic view along water and manicured green lawns


garage

(the end)

househunting, stone arch [first home we put bid on]



Description

Dont miss this very loved 3 yr young four bedroom two bath house. Corner lot with view of pond, great location in the subdivision.Lennar built with many extras like the gourmet kitchen,tile in all wet areas,wall to wall carpet,garden tub and shower masterbath, walk in closets. Living room and den gives you lots of space to share with all the family. Dining room and split plan for master bedroom and guest rooms gives you all the privacy you need.Covered patio look at the pond in the large back yard. Corner lot gives you more space outside.Dont miss this great home at a great price. Price reduced.

ZipRealty Price Track
Price Reduced: 05/14/08 -- $190,000 to $149,900

On Market: 83 days
Interior Features
Floor Coverings:
CERAMIC TILE

Bathroom:
TUB WITH SEPARATE SHOWER STALL
Kitchen:
DISHWASHER, DISPOSAL, MICROWAVE, RANGE


Exterior Features
Parking:
2 CAR GARAGE
Siding:
BLOCK
Lot Description:
CORNER LOT

house hunting (canterbury lakes- our absolute favorite)

this is one of our absolute faves. its in our top two most wanted homes right now. and possibly we'll be bidding on it this week. the entry after this one is the second one we will bid on and the MOST wanted home, dream home. i'll share it shortly after this.


Subdivision name: Canterbury Lakes Phase 3

3 Bedrooms/ 2 Bathrooms

List price: $155,000 ; HOA Fee: $300.00

Sq Ft: 1258

One Story Single Family Home

Built: 2005

Total Acreage: Zero Lot Line

Water: View/Pond

Lot Size: 4,399

Kitchen, dining room, 3rd bedroom all 12x11 feet; living room is 19x12 ft. ; master bedroom 15x12 ft; 2nd bedroom 12x10 feet. porch: 12x12 ft.

Floor covering: ceramic tile

A/c and Heat: central

Extras: volume ceilings, cathedral/vaulted ceiling, walk in closet , two car garage, patio/porch open

3 bed/2 bath 1258 square feet; $155,000 [built in 2005]





front exterior of home/porch




walkway to front of home with porch.



LOVE the porch.




front door that leads outside.
canterbury, tampa





one view of the long lines and long wall along side of living room. narrow makes illusion of spaciousness.




kitchen nook/hutch facing dining area of room.



formal dining area, take one- a bit dark.





second view of dining area, more light.



3rd view of dining area [having hard time with lighting to take pix of this particular room]



i loved the painting above



view of living room with background view of kitchen/dining area- all tile floor, nice tile




entertainment wall across from living room/couch




decorative corner



hallway near front door, love decor and colors, painted wall.




view from living room to hall to wing of guest bedrooms down hall with guest bathroom.



love painting/art





guest room



bedroom



guest bathroom



master bedroom, kind of blurry, sorry









master bathroom within master bedroom, me in reflection.



bathroom in master bedroom, no bathtub but nice shower within this room



walk in closet, in master bedroom. didn't photograph very well.



garage





laundry room in garage



patio with sliding glass door to outside patio cement block





back yard area where across the way is a pond, very green grass, and the backside of neighbors' homes



concrete is where our patio would be, in front and on sides is view of neighbors